I found an honest one on YouTube. We had a conversation. He told the truth…
His YouTube user name is longlivestalin1
So I had to point out some facts
Stalin was a paranoid murdering sociopath whose death was too late to save the lives of 40,000,000 of his own people and the livelihood of countless millions of others his non aggression pact with Hitler cleared the path for WW2 and his policies divided Europe between the living and the dyeing. To claim him as your hero is a sickness all its own.
He then backs away from his hero Stalin
i know this, my real heros are marx and lenin, the real communists, stalin was just a predetor whod do anything for personal power
And of course these two men are not guiltless
Don't tell me Lenin wasn't a mass murderer, Ten million are attributed to his orders. Killing was indispensable to Marx's visions
His answer surprised me
I KNOW LENIN WAS VERY BRUTAL, HE APPROVED IF A SOLDIER DESERTED, EVERY TENTH MAN IN THE UNIT WOULD BE SHOT. BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE BRUTAL IN ORDER TO KEEP ORDER. KEEP CONTROL OF THE MILLIONS, LIKE STALIN USED TERROR TO ENSURE NO ONE TOOK MORE THAN THEY NEEDED (IN THEORY) BUT PROBABLY MORE TO STOP WHOEVER SPOKE AGAINST HIM WITH THE HELP OF THE NKVD, SAME AS LENIN CREATED THE CEKA. (sorry about the capital letters i just noticed!); –)
I saw this has an endorsement of mass murder and said so,
So then, as a committed Communist you approve of mass murder if it's done for the sake of the party? You first claim that (by your chosen name) Stalin is your hero, but when I pointed out his crimes you then refute that and claim Lenin and Marx as heroes, when I point out Lenin's crimes and that they are a requirement under Marx's philosophy you say, yes it must be that way...
And so he then makes it perfectly clear that such murder is right and just under Marxism.
under marx philosopy, the bourgeoisie would have to be re educated or if they refuse they must be destroyed, i know stalin took it way way to far killing the inisint because of his own paranoia. where are you from america? well if you type in the jeremy kile show on youtube then youll see whats being produced by the capatlist system here. the polititions are all public school boys only there because mummy and daddy could afford it. i hate all politiiitions their all greedy bastards. then youve got the millions rotting underneath the pigs (see jeremy kile show) i live in a council house, i know these people have been brought up like it, but for the underclass who will not work because of the corrupt capatlist system, they would have to be eliminated as well as all the polititions royal family house of lords all these corrupt units. and a new system put in to place
Ok so there you have a self professed communist (and bad speller with no knowledge of spell check) who fully and whole heartedly endorses the murder of people because they do not follow Marxism or they do not work. This is the true face of communism, this is why they all end up being despot regimes where murder is a tool of the politically powerful. And fools like this longlivestalin1 are why we must still be vigilant in this post soviet era.
Notice his concern for the poor and unemployable…
but for the underclass who will not work because of the corrupt capatlist system, they would have to be eliminated as well
If you read Marx you know these things are indeed a part of the philosophy of communism along with the destruction of religious institutions, family and private enterprise thru terror murder and force.
Update: 8/19/10Digging the hole mass grave a little deeper with another response from longlivestalin1 to the last paragraph above…
yes i know. in my opinion you would have to kill the top 5% of the population of britain, along with the royal family, house of lords, millionaires, top business owners. after that you would have to kill the bottom 10-13% of the scum exausted from capatlism, the people who wont work, who are too damaged. their children would have to be re educated. the top killed would provide the money, the bottom killed would provide the space. a radical new workers government put into action. to get to utopia we would have to travel through hell itself. inheritance is a major source of capastlist unequalness that must be destroyed altogether. but its true many people would have to die.
So then I guess the only question left to ask is will you be manning the gallows or cheering the executioner?
Note: All the boldface text in the above quotes are mine, for emphasis of course.
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gwillie, people like him are the ones that are most shocked at what communism brings. He thinks everything would be equal, he doesn’t know that with communism, there are many levels of equal decided on by the ruling class. He would most likely be doing the same work he is doing now, but socially be much worse off. The more expendable, the worse off.
Is the little douche aware that while Marx was busy trying to drum up support for his vision, four of his seven children died of malnutrition and illness? He LET this happen because he would rather push his ideology than be gainfully employed and support his family. He is the original "deadbeat dad". Nice role model.
Che came from a wealth family (he was a doctor) and enjoyed killing peasants, but he is a hero to the left.
Here is a good video on the lefty hero Che.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQcUkd1w_TY
But you have to remember to these people, the end justify the means. (unless it means their end)
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